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What scale do people use

George Coles

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Posted: Wed 4th Apr 2018, 3:23pm
What scale do people use

Do people build standard gauge rolling stock (including locos) to 1/8 scale (1.5"=1') or 1/7.79?
I wondered because lots of people now build wagons and or coaches to run in rakes, and none of them look out of scale with their fellows.
I know I used 1:8 when I built the LMS railcar, but it is never in a train with other stock.
George C
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terryrobinson

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Posted: Thu 5th Apr 2018, 10:38am

Hi George
The more accurate scale these days is 1.54"=1', ie 7.25" divided by 56.5 (standard gauge in inches) = 0.1283 x 12 = 1.539" per foot. Hope this helps.
Regards
Terry
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George Coles

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Posted: Thu 5th Apr 2018, 5:41pm

Thanks Terry.

I realise 1.539"=1ft is the scale relationship. It is another way of expressing the 1/7.79 of my original post.

My question was: what do people actually use.

George
 

brianbaker

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Posted: Tue 10th Apr 2018, 5:38pm

Hi George,
I use 1.54 is to the foot, for rolling stock.
Regards
Brian Baker
Hi George,
I use 1.54 is to the foot, for rolling stock.
Regards
Brian Baker
 

HauteSaoneFrance

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Posted: Sat 5th May 2018, 8:28pm

Might seem a dumb question from this relative newbie but a scale of approx I.5 inches to the foot can't relate to 4 ft 8.1/2 track gauge so what does it relate to?
 

Mick

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Posted: Sun 6th May 2018, 8:46am

I believe this goes right back to the beginnings of models being made of full-size locos, in that the general arrangements in drawing offices were drawn to 1/8th full size, i.e. 1½" to 1ft. The gauge is not exact but roughly 7¼". Our hobby and indeed model railways are beset by incorrect relationships between gauges and scales! I have a model railroad in the American Sn3 scale, it's 1/64 scale, i.e. 3/16" to 1ft, 9/16" gauge representing 3ft - perfect! In 4mm scale the inconsistency of so called 00 gauge at 16.5mm led to the formation of the P4 society running on 18.83mm gauge track. The American 7½" gauge came about because of a throwaway remark between model engineers. I wrote about this in the 7¼" news some time ago. Having got the incorrect gauge on the west coast and in Florida they increased their scale to match!
 

HauteSaoneFrance

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Posted: Sun 6th May 2018, 12:24pm

Thanks Mick for that reply, I think I understand though not completely? If a full size loco was about 8 ft wide then 8 X 1.1/2" would give 1 ft which seems to be about the width of scale loco's that are on offer. 1/8th of full size track width (4ft 8.1/2") gives just over 7 inches. I'm going to make another post about my preferences.
 

HauteSaoneFrance

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Posted: Sun 6th May 2018, 12:55pm

Not sure if this is the right thread for my observations? But here goes. When I started to plan my garden railway I was confused about the large variation in the size of loco's and rolling stock running on 7.1/4 track. I wanted genuine 'sit in' rather than 'sit on' stock but quickly discovered that scale meant narrow stock of around 12 to 13 inches width. My first loco was a CMD Knight' about 19 inches in width with a sit in tender, it seemed about minimum size for a sit in. Since I have added a Phoenix electric Vale of Festiniog at 2.4 m long and 600 mm wide and a SRS Big Feldbhan 0-6-0 at 685 mm wide complete with matching tender. currently adding 3 items of bogie stock at 3 m long X 600 mm wide, more is planned but all at 600 mm wide.

The point I'm making is that there seems to be a shortage of commercially available off the shelf stock in this larger scale which is around 3 inches to the foot? All the rolling stock with the exception of a new CMD tipper truck is now being produced in my own workshop though with bought in bogies, axles and wheels etc.

Is it a case that so many people go to club tracks for their running so need stock that is not too heavy or physically large or is it that most are purists and want to keep to scale?
 
 
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